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== History ==
== History ==
During the [[Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022]], Sean answered a few questions regarding the live material after having performed the first show of the twentytwentytwo tour. The tour was initially planned to be held in 2020<!-- trivia that there is speculation the title may be a second attempt at the twentytwenty tour, aka twentytwenty two? -->, before the COVID-19 pandemic delayed the tour. Sean mentioned that on his end, he spent the time reworking the back end, getting interested in MC (multi-channel audio in max), physical modelling and scratching, with the last one seeing use on Gescom's ''[[AMKS_1]]''. <ref>[https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_June_2022#:~:text=Basically%20when%20COVID%20hit%2C%20I%20had%20a%20lot%20of%20time%20on%20my%20hands%20to%20rebuild%20a%20lot%20of%20it. https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_June_2022#:~:text=Basically%20when%20COVID%20hit%2C%20I%20had%20a%20lot%20of%20time%20on%20my%20hands%20to%20rebuild%20a%20lot%20of%20it.]</ref> The end product was Sean noting that they had at least 3 and a half hours of material prepared.
During the [[Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022]], Sean answered a few questions regarding the live material after having performed the first show of the twentytwentytwo tour. The tour was initially planned to be held in 2020<!-- trivia that there is speculation the title may be a second attempt at the twentytwenty tour, aka twentytwenty two? -->, before the COVID-19 pandemic delayed the tour. Sean mentioned that on his end, he spent the time reworking the back end, getting interested in MC (multi-channel audio in max), physical modelling and scratching, with the last one seeing use on Gescom's ''[[AMKS_1]]''. <ref>{{Cite interview|page=Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022|quote=Basically when COVID hit, I had a lot of time on my hands to rebuild a lot of it. So it's, yeah, it’s a lot of it you wouldn't even notice because a lot of it's just porting things to Gen that didn't need to be ported but just because I wanted a bit more control, and that led me off on loads of tangents because once you start building basic things like oscillators, you get a bit mad with all the options. So yeah, that happened and then I got heavily into MC, and then that happened. And then I built a lot more [physical] modeling stuff, and I did that scratching thing that we used on that Gescom thing that we've done about just over a year ago. And then did that and then, and then, yeah the set sort of grew out of all that tech basically. So sty listically, it's not that far off what we've been doing for the last few years because I think we're still in the same sort of place mentally. But, tech wise, the underlying, the kind of back end stuff is all fresh.}}</ref> The end product was Sean noting that they had at least 3 and a half hours of material prepared.


The first show of the tour was performed at Primavera in Barcelona on the 3rd of June. In the AMA, Sean mentioned that that particular show did not go well, as they had to negotiate the rights to the soundboard from Primavera before messing up the recording regardless causing it to be left off the initial 2022 batch.<ref>[[Sean AMA Transcript 220605#:~:text%3DYeah%2C%20there's%20not%20really%20any%20good%20pictures%2C%20but%20the%20problem%20was%20with%20Primavera%2C|<nowiki/>]]<nowiki/>https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_AMA_Transcript_220605#:~:text=Yeah%2C%20there%27s%20not%20really%20any%20good%20pictures%2C%20but%20the%20problem%20was%20with%20Primavera%2C</ref>
The first show of the tour was performed at Primavera in Barcelona on the 3rd of June. In the AMA, Sean mentioned that that particular show did not go well, as they had to negotiate the rights to the soundboard from Primavera before messing up the recording regardless causing it to be left off the initial 2022 batch.<ref>[[Sean AMA Transcript 220605#:~:text%3DYeah%2C%20there's%20not%20really%20any%20good%20pictures%2C%20but%20the%20problem%20was%20with%20Primavera%2C|<nowiki/>]]{{Cite interview|page=Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022|quote=[...] the problem was with Primavera, they were trying to get rights for everything, right? So they were trying to get broadcast, they were trying to record it, you know? Obviously we're thinking about releasing them, so we didn't want to okay it. We ended up fucking up the recording anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered.}}</ref>


On October 4th, 2022, "AE_LIVE_HELSINKI_110922_LTD" was released early exclusively to attendants of the show, with the reasoning being due to technical issues during the show.<ref>''[https://www.reddit.com/r/autechre/comments/xobdtd/exclusive_release_incoming_for_helsinki_attendees/ Exclusive release incoming for Helsinki attendees,]'' Reddit, September 2022</ref><!-- should we possibly include the original cover? --><!-- also maybe find the official announcement of this --> Small glitches started to materialize a third into the show, which progressively became so distracting that by the last third of the show, it was plagued with loud pops and audio dropouts. <!-- very rough synthesis of the reddit and watmm source -->Explanation for the issues reigned in on it being due to the poor subwoofer setup and system clock drift, which in combination with the heavy subbass in the set caused a coil short circuit in the speakers.<ref>''[https://www.reddit.com/r/autechre/comments/xbspfv/there_were_some_audio_issues_during_helsinki_gig/?rdt=51772 There were some audio issues during Helsinki gig.]'' Reddit, September 2022</ref><ref>https://forum.watmm.com/topic/102400-autechre-live-twentytwentytwo/?do=findComment&comment=2925915</ref> The soundboard was left unmastered for this release, and later rereleased with proper mastering. <!-- there's mention of similar issues at Athens, though it was not intense enough to warrant any announcement. Doubt it should be included but thought I should note. -->
On October 4th, 2022, "AE_LIVE_HELSINKI_110922_LTD" was released early exclusively to attendants of the show, with the reasoning being due to technical issues during the show.<ref>''[https://www.reddit.com/r/autechre/comments/xobdtd/exclusive_release_incoming_for_helsinki_attendees/ Exclusive release incoming for Helsinki attendees,]'' Reddit, September 2022</ref><!-- should we possibly include the original cover? --><!-- also maybe find the official announcement of this --> Small glitches started to materialize a third into the show, which progressively became so distracting that by the last third of the show, it was plagued with loud pops and audio dropouts. <!-- very rough synthesis of the reddit and watmm source -->Explanation for the issues reigned in on it being due to the poor subwoofer setup and system clock drift, which in combination with the heavy subbass in the set caused a coil short circuit in the speakers.<ref>''[https://www.reddit.com/r/autechre/comments/xbspfv/there_were_some_audio_issues_during_helsinki_gig/?rdt=51772 There were some audio issues during Helsinki gig.]'' Reddit, September 2022</ref><ref>https://forum.watmm.com/topic/102400-autechre-live-twentytwentytwo/?do=findComment&comment=2925915</ref> The soundboard was left unmastered for this release, and later rereleased with proper mastering. <!-- there's mention of similar issues at Athens, though it was not intense enough to warrant any announcement. Doubt it should be included but thought I should note. -->
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* The main equipment used for live shows are two M1 Macs running Max/MSP, Kenton Killamix controllers, Apogee Symphony Desktop, Apogee Element 24, and MOTU M2.<ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_June_2022#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWhat%27s%20your%20live%20setup%20nowadays%3F%E2%80%9D</ref><ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Hanalgig_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=Tebbisimo%3A%20Shit%20sorry%20mate%20actual%20question%20here.%20What%20audio%20interface%20you%20using%20on%20the%20live%20sets%20ATM%3F%20I%20couldn%27t%20care%20less%20tbh%20but%20my%20mate%20is%20desperate</ref><ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=vektrian%3A%20Can%20u%20describe%20the%20live%20setup%20of%20the%20last%20gigs%2C%20laptop%2C%20controllers%2C%20souncard%2C%20thx</ref>
* The main equipment used for live shows are two M1 Macs running Max/MSP, Kenton Killamix controllers, Apogee Symphony Desktop, Apogee Element 24, and MOTU M2.<ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_June_2022#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWhat%27s%20your%20live%20setup%20nowadays%3F%E2%80%9D</ref><ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Hanalgig_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=Tebbisimo%3A%20Shit%20sorry%20mate%20actual%20question%20here.%20What%20audio%20interface%20you%20using%20on%20the%20live%20sets%20ATM%3F%20I%20couldn%27t%20care%20less%20tbh%20but%20my%20mate%20is%20desperate</ref><ref>https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=vektrian%3A%20Can%20u%20describe%20the%20live%20setup%20of%20the%20last%20gigs%2C%20laptop%2C%20controllers%2C%20souncard%2C%20thx</ref>
* [[ae mixlr 300320|During a mixlr stream on March 30th, 2020]], Sean skimmed through some of their jam folders, which included a few snippets of material of the live material in an early state.
* [[ae mixlr 300320|During a mixlr stream on March 30th, 2020]], Sean skimmed through some of their jam folders, which included a few snippets of material of the live material in an early state.
* In December 2022, Sean posted two max demos to Mastodon; one on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poN6FDyB28 10th] and one on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgMArRJswIQ 15th].<!-- insert explanation of why he posted it, context of the mastadon thread and shit -->It has since been confirmed to be live show patches as both appeared in the Sydney and Dublin sets.<!-- slightly premature but i think AE_LIVE pages can contain information about the tour of not released soundboards. -->
* <!-- when 2023 batch drops, move this to the specific "segment" in analysis -->In December 2022, Sean posted two max demos to Mastodon; one on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poN6FDyB28 10th] and one on the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgMArRJswIQ 15th].<!-- insert explanation of why he posted it, context of the mastadon thread and shit -->It has since been confirmed to be live show patches as both appeared in the Sydney and Dublin sets.
** In the top right corner of the 15th December demo, "three tone" is written, possibly indicating the section title.
** In the top right corner of the 15th December demo, "three tone" is written, possibly indicating the section title.
** Also in the 15th demo, one of the files loaded into a sampler (likely indicating a sample used in the live material) is Gap Band's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSsXRWhfN3w&pp=ygUpQnVybiBSdWJiZXIgT24gTWUgKFdoeSBZb3UgR290dGEgSHVydCBNZSk%3D "Burn Rubber On Me (Why You Wanna Hurt Me)"]  
** Also in the 15th demo, one of the files loaded into a sampler (likely indicating a sample used in the live material) is Gap Band's [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSsXRWhfN3w&pp=ygUpQnVybiBSdWJiZXIgT24gTWUgKFdoeSBZb3UgR290dGEgSHVydCBNZSk%3D "Burn Rubber On Me (Why You Wanna Hurt Me)"]  
** For the 10th December demo, it was captioned with “Reasonable facsimile of the Levee Breaks snare from a model made of water and spider silk (?!) who knew” with alt text further clarifying "A video showing a modelled snare drum roughly emulating the snare drum from When The Levee Breaks by Led Zeppelin". The snare4ml shown is an example snare instrument from [https://forum.ircam.fr/projects/detail/modalys/ Modalys for Max], with Modalys also appearing in the 15th demo for its custom-made clarinet instrument.<ref>Observation by sfn / Davide Vin</ref>
* The CAT number, WARP444, was likely specifically requested by Autechre, to reference the song "444" off their first album, ''[[Incunabula]]''.
* The CAT number, WARP444, was likely specifically requested by Autechre, to reference the song "444" off their first album, ''[[Incunabula]]''.
* The main cover art for ''AE_LIVE 2022-'' consists of all the individual set art overlaid on top of each other.
* The main cover art for ''AE_LIVE 2022-'' consists of all the individual set art overlaid on top of each other.

Revision as of 16:59, 25 March 2024

AE_LIVE 2022-

AE LIVE 2022.jpg

Artist Autechre
Released 10 August 2023
Label Warp Records (WARP444)
PLUS
(2020)
AE_LIVE 2022-

AE_LIVE 2022-, otherwise known as the twentytwentytwo tour[1], is a compilation of seven soundboard recordings taken from live shows performed throughout 2022. The first batch was released on August 10th, 2023.

History

During the Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022, Sean answered a few questions regarding the live material after having performed the first show of the twentytwentytwo tour. The tour was initially planned to be held in 2020, before the COVID-19 pandemic delayed the tour. Sean mentioned that on his end, he spent the time reworking the back end, getting interested in MC (multi-channel audio in max), physical modelling and scratching, with the last one seeing use on Gescom's AMKS_1. [2] The end product was Sean noting that they had at least 3 and a half hours of material prepared.

The first show of the tour was performed at Primavera in Barcelona on the 3rd of June. In the AMA, Sean mentioned that that particular show did not go well, as they had to negotiate the rights to the soundboard from Primavera before messing up the recording regardless causing it to be left off the initial 2022 batch.[3]

On October 4th, 2022, "AE_LIVE_HELSINKI_110922_LTD" was released early exclusively to attendants of the show, with the reasoning being due to technical issues during the show.[4] Small glitches started to materialize a third into the show, which progressively became so distracting that by the last third of the show, it was plagued with loud pops and audio dropouts. Explanation for the issues reigned in on it being due to the poor subwoofer setup and system clock drift, which in combination with the heavy subbass in the set caused a coil short circuit in the speakers.[5][6] The soundboard was left unmastered for this release, and later rereleased with proper mastering.

On August 7th, 2023, Warp sent out an announcement to sign up for to the newsletter. The following day, AE_LIVE 2022- was officially announced, and the first batch of shows from Milan 2022 to Turin 2022 was released individually and as a compilation on the 10th. The hyphen added to the end of the title indicated the possibility of future sets being added at a later date.

In a Mastodon post on November 18th, 2023, he gave an update that the material was up to "about 4 hours long so far and growing steadily." [7]

Analysis

Main analysis by Zythion and EnergyIsMassiveLight. Officially released sets are highlighted in bold while the unreleased sets with bootleg recordings are italicized.

  • #1
  • #2 "ecol4"[8]
  • #3
  • #4
  • #5 Contains elements of "F7"
  • #6
  • #7
  • #8 Contains elements of "psin AM"
  • #9
  • #10
  • #11
#1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 #7 #8 #9 #10 #11
MILAN_010722 0:00 7:06 24:20 35:47 46:23 62:14
ATHENS_050722 0:00 7:41 25:32 36:17 46:42 64:02 73:53
HELSINKI_110922 0:00 7:42 24:19 35:40 46:38 64:27
LONDON_071022_A 0:00 6:12 19:20 29:16 37:13 53:06
LONDON_071022_B 0:00 9:46 25:14 32:59 44:54
BERGEN_021122 0:00 7:00 19:19 29:15 37:12 52:23 59:47
TURIN_041122 0:00 5:59 18:19 28:15 36:12 52:41
Barcelona_030622 1:01 8:18 24:45 35:40 48:46 59:14

Trivia

  • The main equipment used for live shows are two M1 Macs running Max/MSP, Kenton Killamix controllers, Apogee Symphony Desktop, Apogee Element 24, and MOTU M2.[9][10][11]
  • During a mixlr stream on March 30th, 2020, Sean skimmed through some of their jam folders, which included a few snippets of material of the live material in an early state.
  • In December 2022, Sean posted two max demos to Mastodon; one on the 10th and one on the 15th.It has since been confirmed to be live show patches as both appeared in the Sydney and Dublin sets.
    • In the top right corner of the 15th December demo, "three tone" is written, possibly indicating the section title.
    • Also in the 15th demo, one of the files loaded into a sampler (likely indicating a sample used in the live material) is Gap Band's "Burn Rubber On Me (Why You Wanna Hurt Me)"
    • For the 10th December demo, it was captioned with “Reasonable facsimile of the Levee Breaks snare from a model made of water and spider silk (?!) who knew” with alt text further clarifying "A video showing a modelled snare drum roughly emulating the snare drum from When The Levee Breaks by Led Zeppelin". The snare4ml shown is an example snare instrument from Modalys for Max, with Modalys also appearing in the 15th demo for its custom-made clarinet instrument.[12]
  • The CAT number, WARP444, was likely specifically requested by Autechre, to reference the song "444" off their first album, Incunabula.
  • The main cover art for AE_LIVE 2022- consists of all the individual set art overlaid on top of each other.

Gallery

Tracklist

# Title Length
1 AE_LIVE_MILAN_010722 1:06:56
2 AE_LIVE_ATHENS_050722 1:20:03
3 AE_LIVE_HELSINKI_110922 1:11:07
4 AE_LIVE_LONDON_071022_A 59:48
5 AE_LIVE_LONDON_071022_B 59:33
6 AE_LIVE_BERGEN_021122 1:07:59
7 AE_LIVE_TURIN_041122 1:00:45
Total 7:46:12

Links

References

  1. https://autechre.warp.net/twentytwentytwo
  2. Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022"Basically when COVID hit, I had a lot of time on my hands to rebuild a lot of it. So it's, yeah, it’s a lot of it you wouldn't even notice because a lot of it's just porting things to Gen that didn't need to be ported but just because I wanted a bit more control, and that led me off on loads of tangents because once you start building basic things like oscillators, you get a bit mad with all the options. So yeah, that happened and then I got heavily into MC, and then that happened. And then I built a lot more [physical] modeling stuff, and I did that scratching thing that we used on that Gescom thing that we've done about just over a year ago. And then did that and then, and then, yeah the set sort of grew out of all that tech basically. So sty listically, it's not that far off what we've been doing for the last few years because I think we're still in the same sort of place mentally. But, tech wise, the underlying, the kind of back end stuff is all fresh."
  3. Sean Twitch AMA, June 2022"[...] the problem was with Primavera, they were trying to get rights for everything, right? So they were trying to get broadcast, they were trying to record it, you know? Obviously we're thinking about releasing them, so we didn't want to okay it. We ended up fucking up the recording anyway, so it wouldn't have mattered."
  4. Exclusive release incoming for Helsinki attendees, Reddit, September 2022
  5. There were some audio issues during Helsinki gig. Reddit, September 2022
  6. https://forum.watmm.com/topic/102400-autechre-live-twentytwentytwo/?do=findComment&comment=2925915
  7. @sean_ae Mastodon post, November 18, 2023
  8. https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_AMA_Transcript_220605#:~:text=Yeah%2C%20basically%20that.%20It%20started%20out%20quite%20different.%20So%2C%20you%20can%20hear%20a%20bit%20of%20ecol%5B4%5D%20in%20the%20set%2C%20ecol4%20that%20was%20basically%20like%20the%20ecol4%20that%27s%20on%20PLUS%20when%20we%20started%20out
  9. https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_June_2022#:~:text=%E2%80%9CWhat%27s%20your%20live%20setup%20nowadays%3F%E2%80%9D
  10. https://aepages.org/wiki/Hanalgig_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=Tebbisimo%3A%20Shit%20sorry%20mate%20actual%20question%20here.%20What%20audio%20interface%20you%20using%20on%20the%20live%20sets%20ATM%3F%20I%20couldn%27t%20care%20less%20tbh%20but%20my%20mate%20is%20desperate
  11. https://aepages.org/wiki/Sean_Twitch_AMA,_July_2022#:~:text=vektrian%3A%20Can%20u%20describe%20the%20live%20setup%20of%20the%20last%20gigs%2C%20laptop%2C%20controllers%2C%20souncard%2C%20thx
  12. Observation by sfn / Davide Vin